I picked up on this yesterday via CMS Wire, you can see Barb Moshers article here: "EMC replaces their WCM with FatWires Web Experience Management"
EMC's press release is here: EMC and FatWire Jointly Deliver Marketing Solutions for Web Experience and Brand Management
As we would expect of anything Documentum related, Pie has some cogent thoughts on the partnership on his blog here: "EMC admits it needs help, partners with FatWire". Pie also links to a blog posting be Lee at BMOC in his article.
So what do we think ? Well I have to concur with both Barb and Pie that this is largely a very positive thing. I have only worked with Documentum since 5.25, but back then Web Publisher was very much the red haired step child, starved of love and attention, never mind investment ! At the Open University when we were looking at how we would use Web Publisher, an un-named (for his own protection) consulting friend of ours called it a 'dog' and told us not to use it, even if we had paid for it.
Now to be fair, there have been more recent investment, and in the 6.0 to 6.5 releases Web Publisher has got better, but I still liked the title of Pie's piece - EMC admits it needs help. I know very little about the FatWire product to be honest, but I am aware that it has a good reputation. It certainly could not be anything other than an improvement over Web Publisher in many respects, but as it is also a move up from 'WCM" to 'WEM' it brings many new features such as integrated analytics.
Today EMC and FatWire held a webinar to flesh out a little of the detail in the press release and to show a demo of the FatWire product dragging in content from a Documentum repository, and I got to ask some questions of the panel, most of which were answered by Peggy Ringhausen, Senior Product Manager for WCM at EMC.
First I asked Peggy how far the relationship with FatWire goes with respect to deprecating Web Publisher. Peggy confirmed that the long term view is to move Documentum WCM to FatWire as the 'EMC Documentum Web Experience Management solution'. There is no end of life date for Web Publisher yet, and she noted that it will probably take around 3 years to end of life the old product line.
The current integration between FatWire and the Documentum repository is one way, with the Documentum content being the 'master copy' which can be 'shared' to the FatWire repository. This appeared to be seamless in the demo. Loren Weinberg of FatWire noted in response to a question that metadata is synchronised as well as the content item, and that synchronisation can be automatic (i.e. master content in Documentum is edited, then a copy is automatically moved to FatWire) or it can trigger a workflow so that FatWire content managers can make a decision on which asset to use.
Coming later this year as part of the move to integrate Documentum's Digital Asset Management platform underneath FatWire will be full bi-directional synchronization. This would allow UGC from a FatWire site to be archived in Documentum, or whole web sites to be archived for legal compliance reasons. Loren also called out the joint research efforts to be undertaken as the partnership moves forward.
All in all it was a useful webinar, and at some point the recording should appear on the EMC On-Demand Events page.
Why did EMC just not buy FatWire ? Well there is no need to make such an acquisition even if you can afford it, when a good partnership will suffice and as Pie noted in his article, its a good thing to seperate the content application from the content management platform. FatWire is free to develop and extend its platform at its own rate, with no dependencies on the rate at which EMC can develop the base underlying platform. However I do wonder that if at some point you could use FatWire without the need for the seperate FatWire repository that you need right now?
Showing posts with label WCMS. Show all posts
Showing posts with label WCMS. Show all posts
Wednesday, 17 February 2010
Thursday, 4 September 2008
WCMS from 'The Level'
Yesterday we had a very nice Webex Demo of the WCMS product from a company called 'The Level'. An excellent demo and big thanks to them for finding the time to show us the product, which was very nice, with a good interface, very nice localisation features and a flexible workflow tool.
Anyway, go look them up for yourselves: http://www.thelevel.com/
Tuesday, 29 July 2008
New WCM training
If you have not picked up on it yet, my friends at CMS Watch have released new WCM training. Its a 4.5 hour (half day) online (elearning ?) variant of Tony Byrne's very successful half day workshop which he has been doing at conferences for years. Go take a look at:
http://www.cmswatch.com/Education/WCM/
It has prompted me to start a discussion in the WCM group on InformationZen, a group I started as the AIIM guys seemed to miss out WCM in their initial setup of groups, as to whether we need an AIIM WCM certificate, similar to their other offerings, with WCM Practioner, WCM Specialist and WCM Master certifications.
Personally I think we do, at least having staff with some good training behind them may stop organizations from forcing a very square Sharepoint peg, into a very round WCMS hole.
http://www.cmswatch.com/Education/WCM/
It has prompted me to start a discussion in the WCM group on InformationZen, a group I started as the AIIM guys seemed to miss out WCM in their initial setup of groups, as to whether we need an AIIM WCM certificate, similar to their other offerings, with WCM Practioner, WCM Specialist and WCM Master certifications.
Personally I think we do, at least having staff with some good training behind them may stop organizations from forcing a very square Sharepoint peg, into a very round WCMS hole.
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InformationZen,
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Tuesday, 3 June 2008
The right tool for the right (WCMS) job - updated
Updated: Please see click on comments below, where James responds with a very good point
A number of noted experts have started conversations on a similar topic, but from different angles recently; namely how well certain products fit, or could fit, in a web content management scenario.
Dan Keldsen of AIIM, started by asking a question on LinkedIn, ref use of Microsofts MOSS2007 or WSS (i.e. Sharepoint technologies) for external web sites. Although there are definately some good and 'large' sites out there, with many people responding to Dan's question with examples, there are others who note that Sharepoint is a platform, an that said platforms strongest point is not web content management.
In a similar vein Seth Gottlieb noted that the WCM scenario is not Alfresco's strong point, and James Robertson responded with a comment about Alfresco being one of the products with a 'document management' oriented viewpoint, and thats one reason why it may never be great at WCM.
Both Seth and James point to 'integration', so for example on the open source front Alfresco has integrations with Drupal and the Liferay portal, whilst on the MS front, I have recently been researching CMS's vendors who have MOSS or WSS integrations.
So it seems to me, that as is often the case in enterprise software, whilst 'platforms' might be a key piece of infrastructure in your enterprise architecture, you should not attempt to shove that square peg into the round hole just because your 'platform' vendor tells you round holes are a good thing ! Whilst the devil is always in the detail, and in some scenarios there will be benefits to limiting the proliferation of software, quite often it is about finding the right tool to do the right job, and ensure that everything fits together and plays together nicely. Which is a nice way to end with a pointer to Pie's latest piece on ECM standards...........
A number of noted experts have started conversations on a similar topic, but from different angles recently; namely how well certain products fit, or could fit, in a web content management scenario.
Dan Keldsen of AIIM, started by asking a question on LinkedIn, ref use of Microsofts MOSS2007 or WSS (i.e. Sharepoint technologies) for external web sites. Although there are definately some good and 'large' sites out there, with many people responding to Dan's question with examples, there are others who note that Sharepoint is a platform, an that said platforms strongest point is not web content management.
In a similar vein Seth Gottlieb noted that the WCM scenario is not Alfresco's strong point, and James Robertson responded with a comment about Alfresco being one of the products with a 'document management' oriented viewpoint, and thats one reason why it may never be great at WCM.
Both Seth and James point to 'integration', so for example on the open source front Alfresco has integrations with Drupal and the Liferay portal, whilst on the MS front, I have recently been researching CMS's vendors who have MOSS or WSS integrations.
So it seems to me, that as is often the case in enterprise software, whilst 'platforms' might be a key piece of infrastructure in your enterprise architecture, you should not attempt to shove that square peg into the round hole just because your 'platform' vendor tells you round holes are a good thing ! Whilst the devil is always in the detail, and in some scenarios there will be benefits to limiting the proliferation of software, quite often it is about finding the right tool to do the right job, and ensure that everything fits together and plays together nicely. Which is a nice way to end with a pointer to Pie's latest piece on ECM standards...........
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Alfresco,
CMS Watch,
Dan Keldsen,
Drupal,
James Robertson,
MOSS2007,
Seth Gotlieb,
Sharepoint,
WCMS,
WSS
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